hypocrits...

November 12, 2008 07:26 by Lisey
 

An elderly woman bearing a cross who attended a gay marriage protest to voice her support of the California ban was attacked by demonstrators and may now press charges.

Carrying a large, Styrofoam cross, 69-year-old Phyllis Burgess showed up at a rally last Friday against Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage that was passed on Election Day in California.

She was there to show her belief in traditional marriage, she said.

Within minutes, however, angry protesters swarmed around the Palm Springs resident, yanked the cross from her hands and trampled on it.

The incident was videotaped and posted on YouTube.

Now, Burgess says she might press assault charges, according to The Desert Sun.

“I guess I didn’t see the gravity of the whole thing and how it was being portrayed to the public,” Burgess told the paper. “People are incensed. They seem to want some kind of justice.”

Palm Springs police have made no arrests yet, but said they spent time Sunday trying to convince Burgess to file charges against some of the demonstrators.

Why is it that when the LDS Church and MANY others exercise their right to freedom of speech, the gays and supporters of gays scream HATE-mongers!, but when that same group vandalizes and destroys religious property that isn't theirs, they don't see the hypocrisy.  It makes me even less supportive of this rude, unethical horrible bunch that could do such a thing to little old lady and her cross (who obviously WASNT LDS). 


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Obama

November 6, 2008 01:42 by Lisey

there are a lot of fears concerning Obama from Cyn apparently. Chicken little's "The sky is falling' type of attitude when we haven't even seen one hint that Obama is satan as she claims seems really irrational.  I voted against raising taxes and I voted for a cool, calm president who might be able to soothe all the messes Bush and his cronies have made.

First of all, there's something about Obama that rings true to me when he talks.  He surrounds himself with people across the board and really listens to opposing viewpoints.  I feel he is much less 'hot-headed' then McCain, and I think we need someone very cool and calm to erase all the issues Bush created with his 'wars'.  It's kind of like listening to someone and the spirit confirms they are genuine.  I get such a feeling and confirmation listening to Obama, not McCain.  McCain scares the hell out of me in what he'll do with my money.  There are two ways to vote:  Fear based - such as Cyn keeps on spouting, or hope based - such that I voted.  I'm voting on faith that calm heads will prevail and clean up the messes WE made.  I think Obama is a realist.  He told black fathers to stop being irresponsible, he sees that a lot of the issues of race is internal in the black community.  He pissed off the black leaders by saying it as it was.  I don't think he's going to be blinded by PC and lobbyists.

I never wanted to go into Iraq.  Saddam was a despot, but he was secular and kept Iran from growing it's religious army.  Iraq was NOT bin Ladan, and had no weapons. I never believed they had weapons. We should have targeted Afghanistan and the taliban with all our might.  Now the taliban is growing again because we were so focused on Bush's war in Iraq.  I think Obama recoqnizes how we completely messed everything up. I also feel Obama hates the taliban as much as McCain does, Obama will fight the taliban just as much as McCain.  In addition, I frankly don't care how much people in other countries want freedom.  If they want it bad enough they will fight for it themselves and have revolution (we did).  Just like the Berlin wall, which was not fought with our guns and airships, freedom only comes from internal sources.  I'm sick of the far right saying it's our duty to go into soveriegn countries and force them to change to democracies (which they aren't going to do anyway.)   

Environmentally, McCain used to be green, then he completely changed during the election (his change and pandering to the far right is what cost him the election.) I liked McCain before 6 months ago.  I think Obama will get us off oil and use all those old oil tax breaks and change them to renewable energy tax breaks.  Change in energy will only happen when there are enough encentives and it's financially viable for companies to go that way.  Bush and unfortunately McCain, were refusing to stop giving tax breaks to oil instead of solar.

Socialism:  in the last few months, McCain was sounding just like those pandering to the 'less forunate'.  In fact, he wants to give hundreds of millions of my tax dollars to irresponsible homeowners so they can keep their house (and not work for it.)  He's rewarding people who are forclosing.  Obama hasn't even gone that far.  In really reviewing Obama's ideas, the only one that feels socialistist is the healthcare and even that isn't mandatory.  People can still 'opt out' if they so choose.  Business will be affected as they either have to offer some type of plan or contribute to a government pool, but McCain's plan was just as bad, if not worse in that in five years his plan would cost so much more than Obama's of tax payers money.  In the end, I am completely against the healthcare policies of either candidate.

Guns: it may be true that Obama is going to scale back gun laws, but in no way can he remove them.  Montana, Wyoming and Idaho would leave the nation (since they signed on only on the condition people can bear arms.) the supreme court just ruled in gun law's favor and it will be years until Obama can put a new justice in, if ever.  We're going to stock up now just in case, but I'm just not thinking it's a rational fear.

Money: out of the wealthy (those who make 250K and up) 65% voted for Obama.  I think that says something.  We need to stop being the bully on the block in the world, we need to be more humble and calm, we need to clean up the environment and get off oil.  Once oil isn't a factor, then the middle east loses all their power.  We need to get back to focusing on invention and the future - not this bloody war that's stupid because no one (including the majority of the Iraqi people) want us there.


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Voting...

November 3, 2008 08:10 by Lisey

Well,

 I voted and my husband voted, so we can at least feel a part of a system we aren't really a part of.  I've been pondering the whole voting thing.  All throughout my neighborhood are signs to support Prop 2a, (a property tax increase of $200 per house) for public school.  I haven't seen one 'no' to prop 2a sign, yet a lot of people I've spoken with, including myself are voting against it.

There is such a fear out there that being 'politically incorrect' and having a 'anti-children' sign will ruin you.  The worst part is, those that would label one against a tax increase 'anti-children' are your neighbors all around you.  I just don't think the way we vote and the way things are phrased and pushed down our throats is very American.  I'd love to have a "NO to prop 2a" but I worry about all of our neighbors blackballing my children more than they do already.  Speaking of phrasing things... there's another ballot measure that starts with the phrase.  "The state shall not discrimate against any person based on race, gender etc. etc."  Well, my husband immediately assumed, just from that first line that he (being a good republican) should vote against it.  I laughed and told him that what he was actually doing was voting to keep affirmative action initiates where the state discriminates against white males. :)  He sheepishly whited out his vote and tried again.  I wonder how many white men voted against that initiative just because of the language.  How many blacks and women voted for it because it used the catch phrase "shall not discriminate"?

Either way, voting feels really manipulated and I'm sitting here wondering how many of my neighbors actually realize their little Yes on Prop2a will hit them with a huge tax increase that will probably not help the kids in the slightest.


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Stealing and Morality

September 18, 2008 02:47 by Lisey

So Fidel accused me of placing Stealing at the top of the list of sins.  I've often claimed that social policy simply steals from laborers to give to the non-Laborer.  In fact, I saw an awesome bumper sticker which said "WORK HARDER... Millions of Welfare Recipients are counting on you."   SWEET!  Fidel then went on to say that I was ignoring Charity and Love by focusing on the Social policies that "take" from one to give to another.  Anyway, I'd like to address the issues that he brought up and that I've been pondering.

Is Stealing the highest moral sin there is?

My answer is YES.  Ok, ok, I know people are clamouring what of Murder? Well... answer is that stealing comes in all forms.  The definition of stealing is:
1)To take (the property of another) without right or permission.

2)To present or use (someone else's words or ideas) as one's own.

Hmmm... would Murder not be the ultimate act of Stealing then?  My body is my property...  you can take it from my spirit in such an act and that is theft.  I also think of those pedaphiles who steal children and their innocence.  Again - a horrid form of Theft.

Taking another's property - body, money, ideas, things, - removes the agency of the owner of said property.  It is an invasive action and the opposite is to 'willingly give to another' or Charity/ Love.  So I would assert that if one willingly died to protect another - that is LOVE and Charity.  If one willingly gave away their possessions to help another - That is Love and Charity.   Theft and Charity are opposites.   Social systems which result in Theft have nothing to do with Charity and Love.  The only way Charity and Love can exist is within the confines of free agency and Theft removes free agency from the equation.

So from now on if I were to list what is the most evil thing on this Earth - I would say Theft.

 


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Sharia Law spreading across the world

September 15, 2008 04:23 by Lisey

I admit it.  I'm terrified of Islam and Sharia law.  To me, it's the epitome of what Satan tried to do.  It's all about Force, with no respect for an individual's (especially Women) rights.  It's coming to the western world.

How is it that one religion can take such control of things?  It is because we are so fearful to say no to them?  I believe Islam is an evil mirror of the Gospel.  It has similiar truths (word of wisdom) but removes the agency central to Heavenly Father's plan.  Both men and women have such restrictions on them (men have to pray 5 times a day or risk being beaten, women can be killed for anything - including being raped.)  It is mosiac law twisted.  Cutting off arms and stonings.  Well, welcome to it if you live in Britain now...    Are we so afraid of this religion that we are willing to lose our freedoms and submit to it?  I just can't understand how anyone thinks this is ok.

Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system.

Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.

Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so."

 Can someone explain how it is that a free country that values human rights, democracy and equality could ever justify Islam and Sharia law in their courts?


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Public Schools and my money...

September 6, 2008 10:40 by Lisey

So my little 7 year old has been the target of some bullying from some mothers in the neighborhood.  His only friends 'were' the boys of these women, so we were worried about how this school year would go.  After things escalated with these moms, I felt it was important to protect my son and pulled him from public school.  The principal actually agreed with me because she had been warned by another principal about how vicious the woman was being about my son.  That said he was supposed to be starting 2nd grade.  The private school tested him and placed him in 3rd and they are using 4th grade books.  This private school is amazing!  They only have 30 students from 3rd to 8th grade.  My son is in a class of three 3rd graders and four 4th graders.  He has periods like in middle school with 6 different teachers.  They are really pushing him and doing activities I could have only dreamed about in public school for second graders.  (welding, knitting, karate, history, latin, spanish, math, language arts, technology, science and current events.)  Just yesterday they looked at their own cheek cells under the microscope and knitted a hat for preemies in the hospital.  The teachers started this school because they hated the public school system and the red tape to learning.  They give him tons of interesting homework and he's learning so much- (for example: he has to write a small report on the life of Buddha for history this weekend.) So I'm kind of thankful those damn women made me look into other options for schooling.

The cost is the hard thing and that's what my rant is about.  Why is it that I have to pay for the local public school when I"m paying $6500 a year for a premium education for my son?  Frankly, if none of us had to pay for public schooling, we could all afford to choose a school for our kids.  I'm all for vouchers and think the idea that I have to subsidize a school that is so lacking bugs me.  If we could make schools a free market, the best would win and cost could be kept reasonable.  So much of our taxes goes to public schools, if they would just allow us to pick public or private - better schools would appear and be successful.  Right now, I'm paying for both public school (taxes and property tax) and private (our of my pocketbook).  The whole thing bugs me.  I understand the argument that all children have a right to an education.  My question is why is it that the goverment should dictate which education comes out of my pocketbook?  Frankly, no child left behind ruins it for gifted kids.  They get 'normalized'.  Too many brilliant kids get lost in the shadows and that just sucks - why should I be forced to support a system that fails children when a better option is out there?

 


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My little excuse for a vacation

August 30, 2008 15:25 by Lisey

I just thought I'd post some happy news on here (especially since Garrett had the nerve to assume this little blog is dead.)   My third and final child was born on Sunday.  My brain is fried, but don't worry -  I'm loading up on some tantalizing issues to discuss in the near future.


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An interview with the son of Hamas leader... who converted to Christianity.

August 12, 2008 09:14 by Lisey

I thought this transcript of an interview with the son of the leader of Hamas was extrememly thought provoking.  I'm sharing it here (it's long but worth it).

 

JONATHAN HUNT: Why, after 25 years, did you change?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: I believe that all those walls that Islam built for the last 1,400 years are not existing (sic) anymore. They don't recognize this. They built those walls and made people ignorant because they're afraid. They didn't want people to discuss anything about the reality of Islam, about the big questions of Islam and they asked their followers, the Muslims, 'Don't ask about those certain questions.'

But now, people have media. If the father closes the door for his daughter not to leave the house, she's going to go behind her computer and travel the world. So people easily can get information, knowledge, searching (sic) engines, so it's very, very available for everybody to study about Islam, about other religions. Not from the Islam point of view, but from other points of view.

So for the next 25 years this is for sure going to make huge change in the Muslim and the Arab world.

JONATHAN HUNT: You speak from a unique perspective, a man who grew up not just in an Islamic family but as part of an organization seen by many people around the world as an extreme force in Islam: Hamas. What is the reality of Islam? You say people don't see the reality; What is the reality of Islam?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: There are two facts that Muslims don't understand ... I'd say about more than 95 percent of Muslims don't understand their own religion. It came with a much stronger language than the language that they speak so they don't understand it ... they rely only on religious people to get their knowledge about this religion.

Second, they don't understand anything about other religions. Christian communities live between Muslims and they're minority and they (would) rather not to go speak out and tell people about Jesus because it's dangerous for them.

So, all their ideas about other religions on earth are from Islamic perspectives. So those two realities, most people don't understand.

If people, if Muslims, start to understand their religion — first of all, their religion — and see how awful stuff is in there, they'll start to figure out, this can't (be) ... because most religious people focus on certain points of Islam. They have many points that they are very embarrassed to talk about.

JONATHAN HUNT: Such as?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Such as Muhammad's wives. You will never go to a mosque and hear about anyone talking about Muhammad's wives, which is like more than 50 wives — and nobody knows (this), by the way. If you ask the majority of Muslims, they will not know this fact.

So they're embarrassed to talk about this, but they talk about the glory of Islam, they talk about the victory, the victories that Muhammad made. So, when people just like look at themselves and see they're defeated, they have ignorance, they're not educated, they're not leading the world as they're expected to do. They’re think they want to get back to that victory by doing the same, what Muhammad did, but disregarding (sic) the timing. They forget that this happened 1,400 years ago and it's not going to happen again.

JONATHAN HUNT: Do they want to destroy Christianity?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Islam destroyed Christianity from the beginning and Muslims don't recognize that they stabbed Christianity (in) its heart when they said that Jesus wasn't killed on the cross. They think that they honor him in this way.

Basically, any Christians understand that this way, (but Muslims) tell Jesus, okay, we don't care, you didn't die for us. Someone sacrificed his life for you, (but) you tell him, okay, you didn't do it!

This is what Muslims are doing basically. But they don't understand that this is the most important part of Christianity: the cross!

So, they are ignorant, they don't know what they are doing and it explains what an evil idea it is behind this Islam.

JONATHAN HUNT: What specific event or events began to change your mind about Islam?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Since I was a child I started to ask very difficult questions, even my family was telling me all the time, 'You're a very difficult person and we were having trouble answering your questions. Why are you asking so many questions?' This was from the beginning, to be honest with you.

But I felt that everybody — and my father was a good example for me because he was a very honest, humble person, very nice to my mother, to us, and raised us on the principle of forgiveness, okay? I thought that everybody in Islam was like this.

When I was 18 years old, and I was arrested by the Israelis and was in an Israeli jail under the Israeli administration, Hamas had control of its members inside the jail and I saw their torture; (they were) torturing people in a very, very bad way.

JONATHAN HUNT: Hamas members torturing other Hamas members?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Hamas leaders! Hamas leaders that we see on TV now, and big leaders, responsible for torturing their own members. They didn't torture me, but that was a shock for me, to see them torturing people: putting needles under their nails, burning their bodies. And they killed lots of them.

JONATHAN HUNT: Why were they torturing people?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Because they suspected that they had relations with the Israelis and (were) co-operating with the Israeli occupation against Hamas ... So hundreds of people were victims for this, and I was a witness for about a year for this torture. So that was a huge change in my life. I started to open my (eyes), but, the point (is) that I got that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. Good Muslims, such as my father, and bad Muslims, like those Hamas members in the jail torturing people.

So that was the beginning of opening my eyes wide.

JONATHAN HUNT: You talk about the good Muslims, like your father, yet you still now renounce the faith of your father. Could you have not been a good Muslim?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Now, here's the reality: after I studied Christianity — which I had a big misunderstanding about, because I studied about Christianity from Islam, which is, there is nothing true about Christianity when you study it from Islam, and that was the only source.

When I studied the Bible carefully verse by verse, I made sure that that was the book of God, the word of God for sure, so I started to see things in a different way, which was difficult for me, to say Islam is wrong.

Islam is my father. I grew up for (one) father — 22 years for that father — and another father came to me and told me, 'I'm sorry, I'm your father.' And I was like, 'What are you talking about? Like, I have my own father, and it's Islam!' And the father of Christianity told me, 'No, I'm your father. I was in jail, and this (Islam) is not your father.'

So basically this is what happened. It's not easy to believe this (Islam) is not your father anymore. So I had to study Islam again from a different point of view to figure out all the mistakes, the huge mistakes and its effects, not only on Muslims — (of) which I hated the values ... I didn't like all those traditions that make people's lives more difficult — but its effects also on humanity. On humanity! People killing each other (in) the name of God.

So definitely I started to figure out the problem is Islam, not the Muslims and those people — I can't hate them because God loved them from the beginning. And God doesn't create junk. God created good people that he loved, but they're sick, they have the wrong idea. I don't hate those people anymore but I feel very sorry for them and the only way for them to be changed (is) by knowing the word of God and the real way to him.

JONATHAN HUNT: Does it worry you that in saying these things — and given your background and your words carrying extra weight — there is a danger that you will increase the difficulties, the hatred between Christians and Muslims in the world right now?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: This could happen if a Christian person will go talk to them about the reality of Islam. They put Christians on the enemy list anyway, before you talk to them about Islam. So if you go to them and tell them, as a Christian, they will be offended immediately and they will hate you and this will definitely increase the vacuum between both religions — but what made someone like me change?

Years ago, years ago, when I was there, God opened my eyes, my mind also, and I became a completely different person. So now, I can do this duty, while you as Christians can help me do it, but maybe you wouldn't be able to. (Muslims) have no excuse now.

JONATHAN HUNT: How difficult a process has this been for you to effectively walk away from your family, leave your home behind? How difficult is that?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Taking your skin off your bones, that's what happened. I love my family, they love me. And my little brothers, they’re like my sons. I raised them. Basically, it was the biggest decision in my life.

I left everything behind me, not only family. When you decide to convert to Christianity or any other religion from Islam, it's not (enough) to just say goodbye and leave, you know? It's not like that. You're saying goodbye to culture, civilization, traditions, society, family, religion, God — what you thought was God for so many years! So it's not easy. It's very complicated. People think it's that easy, like it doesn't matter. Now I'm here in the U.S. and I got my freedom and it's great, but at the same time, nothing is like family, you know. To lose your family —

JONATHAN HUNT: Have you lost your family?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: My family is educated and it was very difficult for them. They asked me many times, especially for the first two days, to keep my faith to myself and not go to the media and announce it.

But for me it was a duty from God to announce his name and praise him (around) the world because my reward is going to be that he's going to do the same for me. So I did it, basically, as a duty. I (wonder) how many people can do what I can do today? I didn't find any.

So, I had to be strong about that. That was very challenging. That was the most difficult decision in my life and I didn't do it for fun. I didn't do it for anything from this world. I did it only for one reason: I believed in it. People are suffering every day because of wrong ideas. I can help them get out of this endless circle ... the track the devil (laid) for them.

JONATHAN HUNT: Have you spoken to your father recently?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: There is no chance to communicate with my father because he's in jail now and there is (sic) no phones in the jail to communicate with him.

JONATHAN HUNT: Have other members of your family told you how he's reacted?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: They've visited him from time to time. Till this moment, I don't know his reaction exactly but I'm sure he's very sad (over) a decision like this. But at the same time, he's going to understand, because he knows me and he knows that I don't make any decisions without (believing strongly in them).

JONATHAN HUNT: Is it making his life more difficult among fellow Hamas members?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Definitely. My family, including my father, had to carry this cross with me. It wasn't their choice. It was my choice, but they had to carry this cross with me and I ask God — I pray for (my father), all my brothers and my sisters here in this church, praying all the time for them — 'God, open their eyes, their minds, to come to Christ. And bless them because they had to carry this cross with me.'

JONATHAN HUNT: Tell me about Hamas and the way it works. Is Hamas a purely Islamic religious organization as you see it, and that's where, in your eyes, its faults lie, or are there other parts of it which are a problem for you? Or is Hamas a good organization? What is Hamas to you?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: If we talk about people, there are good people everywhere. Everywhere. I mean, good people that God created.

Do they do their own things? Yes, they do their own things. I know people who support Hamas but they never got involved in terrorist attacks, for example ... They follow Hamas because they love God and they think that Hamas represents God. They don’t have knowledge, they don't know the real God and they never studied Christianity. But Hamas, as representative for Islam, it's a big problem.

The problem is not Hamas, the problem is not people. The root of the problem is Islam itself as an idea, as an idea. And about Hamas as an organization, of course, the Hamas leadership, including my father, they're responsible; they're responsible for all the violence that happened from the organization. I know they describe it as reaction to Israeli aggression, but still, they are part of it and they had to make decisions in those operations against Israel, (for) which there was the killing of many civilians.

JONATHAN HUNT: Do you believe Israel blameless in the conflict?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Occupation is bad. I can't say Israel — I'm not against any nation. We can't say Israelis, we can't say Palestinians, we're talking about ideas. Israel has the right to defend itself, nobody can (argue) against this. But sometimes they use (too much) aggression against civilians. Sometimes many civilians were killed because those soldiers weren't responsible enough, how they treat people at the checkpoints.

My message even to the Israeli soldiers: at least treat people in a good way at the checkpoints. You don't have to look really bad and it's not about nations, it's about just wrong ideas on both sides and the only way for two nations really to get out of the endless circle is to know the principles that Jesus brought to this earth: grace, love, forgiveness. Without this, they will never be able to move on, or break this endless circle.

JONATHAN HUNT: You've seen your father jailed, you've been in prison yourself. You've seen Hamas carry out acts of terror against Israelis, and yet you say everybody needs to rise above that?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Definitely. This is the only choice. Nobody has magic power to do something for the Middle East. No one. You can ask any politician here in the U.S., you can ask any Palestinian politician or Arab politician, Israeli leaders; no one, no one can do anything. Even if they believe in peace now: they're part of the game.

They're part of the trick. They can't, even if you find a brave person, like Rabin, who was called by an Israeli to make peace with the Palestinians and give them a state, no one, even if you find a strong leader, they can't do this. You can't force an independent country to give another country independence. (Especially when) the other country wants to destroy it.

Everybody is hurt. Israeli soldiers, they lost their friends. Palestinians, they lost their children, their fathers. (There are) many people in prison still, and many people were killed. Thousands. So everybody will never forget this. If they want to keep looking to the past, they will never get out of this circle. The only way to start (is just by) moving on. They were born under the occupation as Palestinians.

The last two generations, it's not their choice. The new generations from Israel — if we say disregarding the existence of Israel is right or wrong, what's the guilt of those people who were born in Israel and they have no other country to go to? It's their country now, that's how they see it. And they are going to keep their resistance and defense against whomever. (They will) say, 'Get out of this land!' So the only way is for both nations to start to understand the grace, love and forgiveness of God, to be able to get out of this.

JONATHAN HUNT: Do you believe that Israel can ever strike a peace deal with Hamas?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: There is no chance. Is there any chance for fire to co-exist with the water? There is no chance. Hamas can play politics for 10 years, 15 years; but ask any one of Hamas' leaders, 'Okay, what's going to happen after that? Are you just going to live and co-exist with Israel forever?' The answer is going to be no ... unless they want to do something against the Koran. But it's their ideology and they can't just say 'We're not going to do it.' So there is no chance. It's not about Israel, it's not about Hamas: it's about both ideologies. There is no chance.

JONATHAN HUNT: Aren't you terrified that somebody is going to try to kill you for saying these things — which would be approved of according to parts of the Koran?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: They got to kill my ideas first, (and) that's it, they're already out. So how are they going to kill my idea? How are they going to kill the opinions that I have? ... They can kill my body, but they can't kill my soul.

JONATHAN HUNT: You're not afraid?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: As a human, you know, I can be very brave now, I'm not thinking about it at this moment and I feel that God is on my side. But if this will be the challenge, I ask God to give me enough strength.

JONATHAN HUNT: Have you been threatened?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: No, not really. Honestly, most Muslims and Muslim leaders here in the U.S. community, European communities, they are trying to get ahold of me. They are calling my famiily, my mother, and asking for my contacts. They are telling her, 'We want to help him.'

JONATHAN HUNT: They think you need help?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Yeah, they think that Christians took advantage of me, and this is completely wrong. I've been a Christian for a long time before they knew, or anyone knew. I love Jesus, I followed him for many years now. It wasn't a secret for most of the time, and this time I just did it to glorify the name of God and praise him.

They're not dealing with a regular Muslim. They know that I'm educated, they know that I studied, they know that I studied Islam and Christianity. When I made my decision, I didn't make it because someone did magic on me or convinced me. It was completely my decision.

JONATHAN HUNT: Do you miss Ramallah?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Definitely. You've been there and you know how a wonderful country (it is). Very, very beautiful. It's a very small spot and it has everything — this is why people are fighting for that piece of land. I definitely miss Ramallah. Jereusalem. The Old City.

JONATHAN HUNT: Do you believe you will ever be able to go back?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: I think I belong to that land, and sooner or later I'm going to go back, no matter what. If they want to kill me, they (will) do whatever they want to do. I have a family there, they love me, they completely support me now with my decisions. Maybe they don't want me to talk to the media but they believe that I made a decision that I completely believe in. So they support me, so I love my family. I'm going to go back there again one day. I love my town.

JONATHAN HUNT: Do you think you'll ever go back to a Middle East living in peace?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: There will be a 100-person peace when Jesus comes back, when he judges everybody. His kingdom's going to be 1,000 years and it's going to be completely peaceful and it's going to be the kingdom of God.

JONATHAN HUNT: What is your basic message to any Muslim listening to this right now?

MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: My message to them is, first of all, to open their minds. They were born to Muslim families — this is how they got Islam and this is just like ... any other religion, like growing up (in) a Christian family, or growing up (in) a Jewish family.

So my point is that I want those people to open their eyes, their minds, to start to understand and imagine that they weren't born for a Muslim famiily. And use their minds.

Why did God give them minds? Open their hearts. Read the Bible. Study their religion. I want to open the gate for them, I want them to be free. They will find a good life on earth just by following God — and they're also going to guarantee the other life.

 


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The purpose of blogging...

August 8, 2008 06:28 by Lisey

Is the purpose of a blog to push an agenda?

Is the purpose of a blog to allow free expression from all its readers - whether they are contrary or not?  Should every voice, even those against Mormonism, be allowed to post?  What of those against Libertarianism?  or even Feminism?  Could we handle reading what a Chauvanist might say on our little blog here?  

Is the purpose of a blog to have one voice alone speak to the tone of the blog? 

 - I've been wondering today what exactly the point of a blog really is.  Isn't the point of libertarianism to allow everyone freedom of thought and speech?  If one type of voice is blocked from posting doesn't that go back to 'censorship for the common good of socialism?"   I hope all the readers of this blog know that anyone is welcome to guest post on here so long as it 'sort of stays along the themes of the blog i.e. Mormonism, Feminism, or Libertarianism.  It is my hope that devout members of the church keep in mind others struggle to believe.  And those who don't believe keep in mind that the majority of our readers "Believe" and people don't need condescending diatribes about how silly their religion is.

I think everyone should have a voice on this blog - all people reading it... Please be respectful and scholarly in your responses and posts - without mocking one's religion or politics.   Is it censorship to ask we all be respectful?   


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What you have is never enough - Big Love Season 2

August 6, 2008 02:10 by Lisey

Well... My hubby and I are well into season 2 of Big love and things are going from innocent to dark.

There's a lot going on, but I want to focus on one concept coming into play.    "Collecting"

When someone has the 'moral license" to marry more than one spouse, when does it end?  For Bill, he's starting to flirt with other women - and at least in the series quite ignoring the 3 wives waiting for him at home.  I think throughout our lives we always meet interesting people.  When one marries in a monogamous marriage, we know that even though so and so is fascinating, we have our one and only.  We don't cross the line and even think of going there (or if we do... affairs and divorce are in our future). 

But what of those who feel morally obligated to continue to look for more spouses because of this notion that they should marry more?  I don't think Bill even understands 2 of his 3 wives.  They are neglected and he rarely takes time to make them feel special.  They just pump out his kids (who he ignores even more) His first wife is the strong one (as I mentioned in an earlier post) - she's out doing her own thing.  But the younger two have drama and issues in their lives because of how empty they are.  And here goes Bill looking at a potential fourth wife.  It reminds me of a collector.  "Ooh... she's interesting/sexy/sweet/insert adjective here... I want her and my wives will deal with it!".   If I was 'supposed' to take multiple husbands - I would always be on the lookout for another flavor (even though in the end, my heart is still bonded to only one.)  Any man I'd run across I'd be sizing him up as a potential mate.  It's such a collecting stance and I don't think Bill can stop the attitude.  One thing that makes Bill different than most polygamists is he is a free agent.  In compounds men only get new wives by their loyalty to the 'prophet' and their servitude.  Bill isn't limited by that so he's now looking..  which really bugs me because he should have just stayed with his equal - his first wife.  In the end I think Bill's brother says it best.  "Men who want to have more than one wife are just selfish."

 


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