Spirit Prison... hmmmm

July 13, 2008 02:20 by Lisey

So last fast meeting, a woman got up and told the story of how she just did the work for her new husband's dead wife.  She spoke of how wonderful this woman was and what a good mother she was.  She then said the following. "Without doing this work, this wonderful woman would be stuck in Spirit Prison."

That got me irratated and thinking about the premise.  Does our Church truly think that anyone who hasn't had their work done, (no matter their heart, mind or service while they were on this Earth) is languishing in Spirit Prison?  One of the beautiful things about our religion is that we do not believe people are punished for other's actions.  Whether it's Adam's trangressions or some future descendent forgetting about me.  If a person is righteous, and a follower of Christ's Gospel (whether they realize it or not - I'm thinking some great buddhists here) does that mean they are stuck in Spirit Prison until we find out their names and do their work?  Are they being kept from God because of our ignorance?  It just doesn't feel right to me, especially with the premise that we are not punished due to others ignorance. 

That said, on LDS.org is says the following:

Spirit prison is a temporary state in which spirits will be taught the gospel and have the opportunity to repent and accept ordinances of salvation that are performed for them in temples (see D&C 138:30–35). Those who choose not to repent but who are not sons of perdition will remain in spirit prison until the end of the Millennium, when they will be freed from hell and punishment and be resurrected to a telestial glory (see D&C 76:81–85).

What of people who were true to the principles of the Lord and their whole lives were devoted to Love and Service the kind of people like Mother Teresa.  I'm sure throughout the ages there have been many "mother Teresas".  We don't their names, we can't do their work, does that mean they are stuck in Spirit Prison with all the unrepentant and sorrowful souls?  It just bugs me to think that my Heavenly Father would sentence a righteous soul to anything other than Spirit Heaven from no fault of their own.  Yes, I understand some will say we will find out their names in the millenium and do their work, but um... that's thousands of years and frankly - even the premise that these souls are 'innocently stuck in hell' feels wrong to me.

What are others thoughts?

 


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July 13. 2008 03:13

MoJo

While I take issue with the juxtaposition of the phrases:

Spirit prison is a temporary state in which spirits will be taught the gospel and have the opportunity to repent and accept ordinances of salvation that are performed for them in temples

(which doesn't sound like such a bad place; maybe a second-rate urban community college type of establishment) and

hell and punishment

(which doesn't sound at all like what the first image evokes, so I'm not sure where the dichotomy came from),

it's a damn sight better than what born-again Christians teach, which is "you accept Christ as your Lord in your heart, here, now, or you're going to a burning lake of fire for the rest of eternity and it doesn't matter how good you were--and oh, by the way, it doesn't matter how bad Born-Again-Jeff over there was, either."

But yeah, I have problems with the justice/mercy aspect of it, as you do.

I don't believe that a Creator--my creator--would doom His/Her creations to the trash heap of eternity for ignorance, no.

MoJo

July 14. 2008 01:10

Cyn

I believe, and I think that prophets have stated this, that good people are not in spirit prison....but in paradise. They are in a state of happiness and joy, and have the chance to learn and grow with help from others and the Lord. Spirit prison is reserved for those with knowledge who violated their principles, as well as those without knowledge who did vile and evil things while on earth so that their spirits have been corrupted.

The gospel is one of great love....and even for those in prison, there is love and a chance to grow as they accept the Lord.

I LOVE the new site! Rock on!

Cyn

July 14. 2008 13:16

Lisey

Cyn,

I wish you were right. On LDS.org, it says you MUST be baptized in order to be in Spirit Paradise. Here's what LDS.org says:

In the scriptures, the word "Paradise" is used in different ways. First, as mentioned above, it designates a place of peace and happiness in the postmortal spirit world, reserved for those who have been baptized and who have remained faithful (see Alma 40:12; Moroni 10:34). Those in spirit prison have the opportunity to learn the gospel of Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, and receive the ordinances of baptism and confirmation through the work we do in temples (see D&C 138:30–35). - end quote.

So while I wish it was how you state, our Church does not say that good people are in Paradise without having their work done first - which brings me back to my issue... I just don't think that's fair or just.

Lisey

August 25. 2008 13:14

TQ

There are happy people in earthly prisons. Why is that so impossible in the heavenly ones?

Hell is a state of mind. Clean and wholesome mind without self-deceptions = peace of mind.

TQ

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